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4th February 2012 at 9:18AM
just a head up for anyone who like me had not heard of the toasty scheme,I went in the library last week and there was a leaflet for FREE insulation under a local authority scheme.Always like something for nothing I phoned them up ,a survey was carried out yesterday and am having free insulation done next week.The scheme is for anyone .Looking forward to a warmer house for the rest of the winter.
Re: cavity wall and loft insulation 0 0 4th February 2012 at 10:15AM, Edit: 4th February 2012 at 10:16AM by BlueGrover
We had this done last year, brilliant scheme.
Stockport Council are working in partnership with the Energy Saving Trust to provide a free* home insulation scheme to help tackle rising energy bills and make homes lovely, toasty and warm.
This new scheme provides funding for owner occupiers and private renters to have loft and cavity wall insulation installed by an accredited installer.
Get Me Toasty is offering free* loft or cavity wall insulation for all home owners or those who privately rent. The usual price is up to £350 each so you could save up to £700 if you have both loft and cavity wall insulation.
If you are interested in keeping the heat in your home, we can arrange a free, no obligation survey to assess the suitability of your home.
Typical Bill Savings
Annual energy bill savings on loft and cavity wall insulation**:
•Loft insulation (if you have none already) £150
•Loft –top up (if you have some, but need more) £45
•Cavity wall insulation £115
Contact us
To get more information on the scheme contact your local Energy Saving Trust advice centre to talk to an energy advisor on 0800 512 012 or you can visit our website www.getmetoasty.com
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Stockport Council are working in partnership with the Energy Saving Trust to provide a free* home insulation scheme to help tackle rising energy bills and make homes lovely, toasty and warm.
This new scheme provides funding for owner occupiers and private renters to have loft and cavity wall insulation installed by an accredited installer.
Get Me Toasty is offering free* loft or cavity wall insulation for all home owners or those who privately rent. The usual price is up to £350 each so you could save up to £700 if you have both loft and cavity wall insulation.
If you are interested in keeping the heat in your home, we can arrange a free, no obligation survey to assess the suitability of your home.
Typical Bill Savings
Annual energy bill savings on loft and cavity wall insulation**:
•Loft insulation (if you have none already) £150
•Loft –top up (if you have some, but need more) £45
•Cavity wall insulation £115
Contact us
To get more information on the scheme contact your local Energy Saving Trust advice centre to talk to an energy advisor on 0800 512 012 or you can visit our website www.getmetoasty.com
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Joesph
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Re: cavity wall and loft insulation 0 0 4th February 2012 at 10:55AM
So is tjis completley free..or is there some of it which will be needed to pay?
Re: cavity wall and loft insulation 0 0 4th February 2012 at 12:03PM
Guest Wrote:
So is tjis completley free..or is there some of it which will be needed to pay?
We had cavity wall and roof insulation, did not pay a penny.
So is tjis completley free..or is there some of it which will be needed to pay?
I think the company that carried out the work were called Greenbank Insulation.
Re: cavity wall and loft insulation 0 0 4th February 2012 at 1:03PM
you only pay for loft insulation if you have some already there and dependent on what depth it is.the cavity wall is completely free.
Re: cavity wall and loft insulation 0 0 4th February 2012 at 7:17PM, Edit: 4th February 2012 at 7:19PM by JohnEllis
We had our loft insulation increased to recommended thickness, about three years ago, under this excellent scheme. We already had cavity wall insulation. It really makes a difference.
And it was free - I think because I was over sixty.
And it was free - I think because I was over sixty.
Re: cavity wall and loft insulation 0 0 4th February 2012 at 11:14PM
You can have it done free by British Gas. It's either cavity wall or loft insulation (not both) but you have to be an existing dual fuel customer if i remember correctly?
A friend of mine is also in charge of an incentive which will start on Monday for people who have Homecare agreements with British Gas (like an insurance cover incase your boiler breaks down!). As long as the person in question has a Homecare agreement but has their energy supplied by someone else, as long as they bring both the gas and electric over then they will get £200. The first £100 is given 3 months after supply and the rest is given after 12 months. Hell, you could take out a basic cover, do that and then still net about £80 or so.
Most energy wastage isn't purely from heat loss, most is from poor understanding. I know both EON and British Gas give their customers free electricity usage monitors so you can keep an eye on your usage on an easy to follow display that puts it in monetary value. It's all about education.
Also, people often go on about cavity wall and loft insulation but 99% of them over-look the heat passing between floors. When decorating any rooms, get your floor boards up and pack that up with insulation too. You can get new-age insulation that is about 10mm thick that does the same job as 300+ mm of normal roll-out stuff. Always get the better stuff (it goes off R ratings). Also, ALWAYS get the best underlay you can. Even though heat rises the floor will leech a lot of energy and again it helps to prevent loss between ground and first floors.
Also, insulate any unseen hot water pipework as it improves the systems efficiency. Make sure the system is balanced and you have the right size rads for the rooms (type BTU calculator into google). Get the reflective backings for behind the rads to reduce heat loss via the walls. Heavy curtains help and make sure you tuck them behind the radiators.
You can get insulate wallpaper and paints as well nowadays. It all adds up.
Thermal mass also helps, so attics filled with clutter, heavily furnished rooms etc as the furniture acts like a giant storage heater, releasing that energy as the temperature falls.
Insulative render, heated glazing etc. Christ, you could go on forever.
It is worth noting though that passive houses can suffer really badly from condensation so the more you insulate the house to reduce heat loss and movement of air the more you may suffer from condensation as the rooms don't get purged.
A friend of mine is also in charge of an incentive which will start on Monday for people who have Homecare agreements with British Gas (like an insurance cover incase your boiler breaks down!). As long as the person in question has a Homecare agreement but has their energy supplied by someone else, as long as they bring both the gas and electric over then they will get £200. The first £100 is given 3 months after supply and the rest is given after 12 months. Hell, you could take out a basic cover, do that and then still net about £80 or so.
Most energy wastage isn't purely from heat loss, most is from poor understanding. I know both EON and British Gas give their customers free electricity usage monitors so you can keep an eye on your usage on an easy to follow display that puts it in monetary value. It's all about education.
Also, people often go on about cavity wall and loft insulation but 99% of them over-look the heat passing between floors. When decorating any rooms, get your floor boards up and pack that up with insulation too. You can get new-age insulation that is about 10mm thick that does the same job as 300+ mm of normal roll-out stuff. Always get the better stuff (it goes off R ratings). Also, ALWAYS get the best underlay you can. Even though heat rises the floor will leech a lot of energy and again it helps to prevent loss between ground and first floors.
Also, insulate any unseen hot water pipework as it improves the systems efficiency. Make sure the system is balanced and you have the right size rads for the rooms (type BTU calculator into google). Get the reflective backings for behind the rads to reduce heat loss via the walls. Heavy curtains help and make sure you tuck them behind the radiators.
You can get insulate wallpaper and paints as well nowadays. It all adds up.
Thermal mass also helps, so attics filled with clutter, heavily furnished rooms etc as the furniture acts like a giant storage heater, releasing that energy as the temperature falls.
Insulative render, heated glazing etc. Christ, you could go on forever.
It is worth noting though that passive houses can suffer really badly from condensation so the more you insulate the house to reduce heat loss and movement of air the more you may suffer from condensation as the rooms don't get purged.
Re: cavity wall and loft insulation 0 0 5th February 2012 at 10:00AM
Good post Limecat, especially the last paragraph.
A lot of people bang on about reducing drafts and blocking up holes etc i.e with cavity wall insulation on old houses where it blocks up air bricks. All you are doing is locking in the moisture in the air - in the air we breath, damp from baths/showers/washing or hanging laundry indoors. I see many a message on forums asking 'why is there mould growing on the wall' - simples, its down to ventilation.
There are pro's and con's with all things, the art is getting that balance right.
A lot of people bang on about reducing drafts and blocking up holes etc i.e with cavity wall insulation on old houses where it blocks up air bricks. All you are doing is locking in the moisture in the air - in the air we breath, damp from baths/showers/washing or hanging laundry indoors. I see many a message on forums asking 'why is there mould growing on the wall' - simples, its down to ventilation.
There are pro's and con's with all things, the art is getting that balance right.
desno
Drifter
Drifter
Re: cavity wall and loft insulation 0 0 6th February 2012 at 8:37AM
i had the loft done by british gas and was free it has made loads of difference and the house is warmer but as climate says i do have a bit more condensation..just a quick wipe down on the windows takes 2 minutes and job done.also my mum had the insulation done and cavity wall and has made massive difference resulting in her having to turn the heating off as the place gets too warm even with the thermostat turned low.my advice would be get it done as we are very happy at the result.
Re: cavity wall and loft insulation 1 0 6th February 2012 at 9:16AM
Regarding the condensation problem.... Ive had the lot done, roof insulation Cavity wall insulation, UPVC windows and even the fireplaces covered up without realising I had turmed my house into a nightmare, absolutely no air could cirulate and I ended up with an absolute nightmare condensation problem, black wall paper manky carpets and upholsery the lot!!! Anyway Ive had to replace everything and have had a condensation unit fitted at the top of the stairs which is a lifesaver but is FREEZING in the winter and then when you could do with it blowingn cold air in the summer, it turms off as it is climate controlled and that cost £700.00 so be careful and make sure you open window etc like in the good old days, Ive learnt my lesson the hard way
Super Guest
Drifter
Drifter
Re: cavity wall and loft insulation 0 0 6th February 2012 at 1:07PM
Nooooooooooo... not a window as that invites.....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2096745/Window-cleaner-caught-camera-reaching-bedroom-steal-credit-card.html
What you need is these on the top of the opening window frame panel or top of your front and back doors. "Trickle Vents"
http://www.titon.co.uk/pages/products/ventilators/slot-vents.php
Just be sure to bed them down onto the inside window frame surface with some silicon sealant so air doesn't wheeze through the gap between the unit and the windows frame flat surface. The hand operated long opening flaps are air tight during even a gale.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2096745/Window-cleaner-caught-camera-reaching-bedroom-steal-credit-card.html
What you need is these on the top of the opening window frame panel or top of your front and back doors. "Trickle Vents"
http://www.titon.co.uk/pages/products/ventilators/slot-vents.php
Just be sure to bed them down onto the inside window frame surface with some silicon sealant so air doesn't wheeze through the gap between the unit and the windows frame flat surface. The hand operated long opening flaps are air tight during even a gale.
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